GI275: Mortgage Note Investing with Quinn McArthur

GI275: Mortgage Note Investing with Quinn McArthur

Quinn McArthur is a West Point graduate and former Green Beret. After working for one of the nation’s largest private commercial real estate developers, he launched Apex Capital, a real estate private equity firm. Following that, he co-founded Legacy Land Fund, focusing on passive income generation through land note investing.

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Charles:
Welcome to new episode of the Global Investors Podcast; I’m your host, Charles Carillo. Today, we have Quinn McArthur, a West Point graduate and former Green Beret. After working for one of the nation’s largest private commercial real estate developers, he launched Apex Capital, a real estate private equity firm. Following that, he co-founded Legacy Land Fund, focusing on passive income generation through land note investing. So thank you so much for coming on the show today, Quinn.

Quinn:
Absolutely. Thanks for having me, Charles. Good morning.

Charles:
Good morning. Yeah. Give us a little background on yourself, both personally and professionally prior to getting the real estate bug and getting involved with investing. Sure,

Quinn:
Man. I was an Army officer for 10 years, so no, no background in real estate, although I had some family in it. So spent 10 years in active duty as an officer, and then really it, it, the tempo was so high between deployments and training cycle, and I wanted to move on with my growing young family and and so real estate was a, was a natural choice for me to kind of continue to have impact.

Charles:
When you got started what was kind of what brought you to to real estate investing? Because there’s so many different, I mean, pursuits in and outside of real estate. I mean, what, what was that brought you into what you’re doing now? Was it somebody that you knew that was successful in real estate before and you wanted to kind of mimic them, or you just felt it would be a great way of kind of having a little bit more freedom over your time?

Quinn:
Yeah, I mean, the natural progression for I guess folks that, that were kind of on, on my path, they would get out and they go back, get their MBA, go into investment banking, go into consulting. And for me, those routes were just untenable for our family. It was just, it was just gonna be more of the same, just spending a ton of time, a lot of travel. Real estate on the other hand was man, I had friends that were doing it there. I I, their lifestyle was family focused, you know they were passive. They were, they, they were, I mentioned impact. They were actually having true direct impact on their communities, not only, you know, in the, in the specific project they were working on, but the surrounding communities. And to me, that was, that was neat. I mean, the, the tangibility of it was, was what drew me in. And so luckily had a mentor in the panhandle of Florida where I lived at the time, that taught me his ways specifically in land investing. Oh,

Charles:
Very cool. Yeah, you is, real estate’s one of those things where you don’t really think about it. We don’t talk too much about on the show, but I mean, if you haven’t been to an area in maybe a couple years or whatever, and you drive through it and there’s been you know, there’s been a lot of work done, a lot of renovation. I mean, you can see how it’s really changed the neighborhood and you might not see it day by day, but if you come back and you see something, the amount of impact that one property, then another property can do on just a neighborhood and it’s super local, and that kind of like spreads little by little because now it’s a magnet for more capital coming in. So it’s pretty

Quinn:
Powerful. Yeah, that’s right. And the, the company I was working for, well, the companies I worked for were, they had changed, I mean, almost single handedly with a, with just a small team, had really changed the dynamic of the, the town and the city that they were in, you know? And I’m like, you know, I, I show up there to, to help them out. And I’m like, who, who, who else is involved? They’re like, it’s just us. And that was incredible to me that just a few folks can see a vision, put it into action, execute work hard, and yeah, take feedback from neighbors, take feedback from the sa the city or the county or the municipality and and move forward with like quality developments that truly help help people.

Charles:
Yeah. And the city see that, and people see that. And my dad was a he was, he started off as like a d class apartment owner we’re originally from in Connecticut. And the police officers would like stop by his property and like commend him and thank him. And like, city you go, you know, like people like knew him and knew what he was doing, and obviously you make a little bit of an impact. I mean, he did, you know what I mean? Where it was surrounded by like slumlords. But you know, people see that, that are in the city, that are in the community and they really appreciate it. I mean, you’re doing your best to really trying to provide housing and then also to you know, do your little bit to try to clean up that neighborhood.

Quinn:
Yeah. It’s, it’s, it doesn’t take much to stand out. You know, you, you ask a few folks for like their opinion in their, their suggestions and you actually implement be it the city or neighbors, you know, neighbor, property owners, business owners, chamber of Commerce, you know, folks that goes a long, long way.

Charles:
So kinda what was your first investment? How did you, how’d you get started? What was kinda your first foray into real estate investing?

Quinn:
It was the, the gentleman that I mentioned, he was a, a mentor of mine. I kind of sought him out ’cause I saw what he was doing in land. I knew nothing about real estate. I, I mentioned I had some family doing it, but they weren’t doing land. And this guy was he was just very, very, he was, he was investing in the panhandle of Florida where he lived, but he was just very passive. I mean, he was always out on his boat or golfing or hanging out with his kids. And I’m like, how in the world are you doing this? And so he introduced me to the, to the world of, of of notes mortgage note investing and kind of being just a, a, a, a basic army guy coming out. I mean, I, it was a steep learning curve for a few years, but I was able to kind of invest alongside with him.

Quinn:
And so we did a few deals, kind of co-invested with him passively. And that’s really, you know, we, we sold a couple pieces of land and on seller financing and collected a note and, and collected the, the monthly payments. And that was really the, the turning point when I saw the power of like, wow, I didn’t have to do that much. I mean, we took some risk, we took some time on the due diligence, but these notes, cash flow, and it’s, it’s capital. It’s all backed by land and it’s capital preservation and it’s predictable and and it’s scalable. And and I was hooked from that time on. Yeah.

Charles:
The proof of concept is definitely a, a huge point and kind of propelling anybody’s career into whatever they’re working in.

Quinn:
Yeah. And I’m, I’m probably not unlike most of your listeners or most people in general, that you kind of have to do it yourself. You see it personally, you know, you can read about it, learn about it here, you know, listen to a podcast. But until you actually do it and it impacts, it significantly impacts like the financial security of your family. Wow. Then it’s like, oh shoot, this is real. You know? Yeah. Then you’re, then you have like true conviction of it, you know, so you have to, you know, you have to do it. Yeah.

Charles:
It was on my second property, my first like three family. It was kinda like a mess. The second one I did a lot better and I kind of had an idea of what I was doing and I was like, oh yeah, this is like, this is, this is how it’s done, you know what I mean? And I was like so pumped after the, after that, getting in that second one. ’cause You’re like, this is how income comes in. This is how everything gets done. Like this is the right way of running properties like this. So it’s super powerful and, you know, getting really going for what you guys are doing now. So, kind of give, let’s get into kinda what you’re doing now. So give us an overview of your company. You have a couple of ’em, and really your investment strategy of what you’ve been working on lately.

Quinn:
Sure, man. Well, I keep it pretty simple. I have kind of two strategies. One is kind of growth mindset and one is just stable cash flow mindset. So for growth, I invest in commercial real estate and I’m pretty agnostic with the market and with the, the strategy I or the asset class. I think you actually, Charles, you had a great post the other day about vetting deal sponsors and having that as your priority. And I, I, I couldn’t agree more. And that’s my aim with the growth strategy is to partner with experts in their field, in their niche. And so I’ll help raise capital for select deals opportunistically as it comes up. Generally like the southeast, you know, so it’s multifamily, mobile, home, self-storage, things like that, and other little niche projects here and there. And then the, the cash flow side, the, the, the stable predictable side are the notes that I mentioned.

Quinn:
And it’s all land, it’s fake and land. So it’s a talk about a niche. This is like a niche within a niche within a niche. And but it’s worked really great. It built up our portfolio. It’s what I’ve been doing to support my family now for a while. And, and it grew to the point where we wanted to invite other peoples into that, into that strategy. People that want real estate exposure but don’t really want to take a ton of risk. You know, there’s never gonna be a capital call, there’s never gonna be, there’s not crazy assumptions on exit, exit cap rates and, and, and, and rent growth and expense, you know, lowering expenses. It’s all very simple and almost boring. And so those are my two strategies. Growth side with commercial real estate selectively. And then the land stuff with you know, for predictable, boring

Charles:
<Laugh>. What I found out is boring, simple investments are usually the best. And people don’t kind of stray away from ’em ’cause they don’t think that’s where the money’s made, but actually that’s where it is. So, yeah,

Quinn:
Absolutely.

Charles:
So we’ve spoken about a lot of people on the show about, you know, commercial, multifamily, all this kinda stuff. But I really wanna dig into what you’ve got going on with land investing and land note investing. So you went through a few things there. Why would be kind of a premier strategy over other real estate investments, but kinda what does a typical land funding deal look like when it comes to you?

Quinn:
Gosh, there’s so many different strategies even within land. You’d be surprised. I mean, we could, I could talk for an hour on like the, the variety of strategies all within just land. But my in I guess investment, the, my strategy of, of choice is, is, is notes. And so typically we’ll buy discounted notes. So if it something’s worth, you know a hundred thousand dollars maybe the, the loan, but the note, the face value is worth like 80. We might, we might buy that for 60, so we’ll buy it at a discount. And there, there’s probably a, you know, 10% interest rate on that five to 10 year term. And we collect monthly principal and interest payments, no different than the bank. I mean, that’s probably the easiest way to explain what we do is we are the bank for landowners. No different than if you have a mortgage on your house.

Quinn:
We are the, the, the mortgage, the note holder for landowners. And it can be recreational land, it can be farming, you know, agricultural land development, you know, development opportunity land. People that are, you know, land investors a lot of times where they’re gonna buy a big chunk and subdivide it. Well, they need help on financing too. ’cause It’s so hard to find financing for vacant land. And we’ve grown comfortable with that as an asset class. We know what to do with it should things go wrong. And hopefully that, hopefully that answers your question. I, I can go into detail. Yeah.

Charles:
The so just to kinda clarify as so I understand it, you’re pretty much, if, so for instance, if I get a mortgage on a house, the lender that I get the mortgage from, let’s just say who originate that is probably not gonna be my lender six months down the road, it’s probably gonna get packaged, it’s gonna get sold somewhere. So pretty much what you’re doing is you’re kind of like the secondary market. You’re gonna be buying these loans at a discount, right? So that you can kinda wait out and fulfill the full value as they pay you and pay down the mortgage. How, okay, so like the deal comes up like next one,

Quinn:
One, yeah. Sorry, one caveat to that. We’re, we’re, we’re not really buying from banks though, right? I mean, they’re not, you’re not gonna get a, a, a, a great deal that way. A lot of our transactions are private and sometimes we even originate the loan. We know that land investor from the outset of the deal. So when he sells it, you know, we’re able to kind of ser serve as the bank for the, the ultimate like land,

Charles:
Right? So whatever that initial lender is, I was just using the bank as an example, but like the initial lender or because you’ll have this sometimes with private money lenders that might lend onto, you know, I might sell up say a seller finance apartment building I sold and I said I was gonna give it eight years and I had a life situation two years in, and I can sell that now it’s a private mortgage, but I can now sell that to someone else. And like similar to what always happens, as you would say in residential with houses and stuff like this.

Quinn:
Yeah, it’s an, it’s an asset. You don’t own the real estate, you own the paper and it, it cash flows. There’s no, there’s no risk. If you have to take the property back, you can. So yes, you got it.

Charles:
Okay. So how are you finding the deals and then you know, how does that get all put together? How are you finding people that wanna sell and kind of working on all the numbers within that?

Quinn:
Well, my partner and I, having been in the industry for quite some time now, it’s, it’s really a kind of a close, close-knit network of, of folks. So it’s a lot of word of mouth. We know a lot of the big players in the, you know, across the country. And and so a lot of our deals, our deal flow happens organically, you know word of mouth, you know, we might help, we might help one land investor, and then he yeah, he shares what we’re doing, our product and services, and he has a good, you know, good experience with us. And so he’ll share it with others. We don’t do a ton of advertising, we don’t do it a ton of marketing. We don’t need to maybe that’s gonna happen in the future, but right now we’re very comfortable with the, the amount of deal flow that’s happening just in our, in our internal network. And it’s, we prefer that too because we know the, we know the folks, you know what I mean? We’re on a first name basis, we’re a text away from a lot of these guys. And, and that’s kind of how we prefer it.

Charles:
So for, say, for instance, if you’re working with someone that sells the land on, you know they take a note, they sell to someone that’s gonna use it for recreation or whatever it is, and at that point, that’s when they’ll probably reach out to you and say, Hey, I wanna like turn this one into cash, and that’s where you’re coming in and buying it, and then you’re gonna hold that for whatever the term is. And what, what does that usually look like that term on something like that where someone finances out it? I imagine it doesn’t go five to 10, five

Quinn:
To 10 years. A lot of people pay off early, which we make it easy. There’s no like prepayment penalties or anything like that. We try to, we try to, we don’t want to be, we want, we don’t wanna be a bank, be like a bank in that way where it’s so institutional. So like, you know, we’re just normal guys just trying to help people, you know, with land ownership developers, subdivides, investors, you know. So yeah, typically five to 10, but a lot of times people will, will want to get outta that early, which we’re perfectly okay with because of the strong deal flow.

Charles:
And how do you guys protect your downside on something like this? Obviously it’s backed by land, however in I would imagine most situations, this land is not generating any income, it’s for personal use, is that correct? How does that kind of work in your, into your strategy?

Quinn:
Well, that is number one. It, it’s, we’re in a first lien position on the land. So if anything happens that we own it. The second thing is our investment to, to value ratio is very low, 50 to 60%, you know. And so like if a hu if if we have to take it back, we’re into it at like 50 or 60%, so we could fire sell that land, we could sell it again via cash or sell it financing. It’s no problem. Even if it, in a big downturn of recession, like in in, in the market ships and those values decrease, we’re still, we’re still, okay. Our default rate is very low, less than, less than 10%. And that’s, and that’s really because we do three main things. Number one is a very strong down payment, 20% minimum down payment. So most banks accept 10, 15.

Quinn:
Some of our, some of ’em are 20, 25, but we’re like 2020 minimum. We’ll do a credit check, we’ll do a personal guarantee. And so like, we’re not gonna go into a deal like, oh, this is a great deal, we just wanna, you know, we need the deal flow. It’s not like that. It’s like, let’s, let’s get quality, quality paper quality assets, quality borrower and if, if, if they check all those blocks and then it’s a deal. And, and the math is easy. I mean the, it’s again, very little assumptions. It’s what’s the, what’s the term, what’s the interest rate? And, and I mean, there’s, there’s four, you know variables there. So we back into what we can afford that afford for that deal, and we, we bring it into the fund. Now,

Charles:
If you were lending on houses, it’s, I mean, there’s so much information out there on due diligence on a property if within anybody’s fingertips, they can figure out some sort of what the value is of a property within something. And, you know, you check, you’re doing all the due diligence on the borrower, that’s pretty straightforward. You know, we’re doing credit checks, background checks, they’re putting down money, whatever else is required in there that can be done pretty much anywhere. How are you doing the due diligence on the property and knowing that if you’re lending X amount on the property, it’s not half of X is the value. You know what I mean? Like, that’s just one thing for me that I don’t, I wouldn’t know how to value that.

Quinn:
And that’s why most people don’t get into, get into it, <laugh>. And that’s why, that’s why this is a such an interesting niche because it is a bit of an art and a bit of a science. So of course you can hire an appraiser, you can hire, you know, local land specialized agents, you know, especially when it’s like a big hunting track or something. You’re gonna call whitetail properties or mossy oak, and they’re gonna go out there with drones and figure it out. They’re gonna assess the va, they’re gonna assess the land, they’re gonna assess the timber value and all the things, and they’re gonna, they’re gonna send a, send you a report with like, man, it’s within this range. So if we take, we take the lowest portion of that range, and if that works for us, then great, of course we’ll do our own due diligence.

Quinn:
We look at only sold comp within the past year for similar properties on a, like a cost per acre basis. So, and, and you know, we hire a lot of consultants. I mean, sometimes, especially on the bigger deals, like we’re hiring soils consultants we’re hiring environmental guys we’re talking to the city and the county about, about, you know, future growth plans, the planning and zoning boards about, you know, where, where growth is happening and hey, there’s a county road cutting through here, like what’s the plan for that? And so it’s, we kind of piece all that together. And and it’s usually a, you know, it, we, we, we blend all our feedback from all these sources, including our own. And so we come to like a range of, a range of values. Hey, this is worth, you know, 300 to 400. Okay, if it works at 300, it’s a deal.

Charles:
Interesting, interesting. Yeah, it’s, it’s it’s, it’s just because if I am, where I am in Florida, if I drive across the state, if I’m going to Tampa or St. Petersburg or something like this, and if you’re on the weekends and you’re driving through, you’ll see RVs and you’ll see them pulling or you know, side-by-side or ATVs, and you’re like, and they’re all, everything’s covered in mud. So you’re like, okay, these are like the people that are using the land because I’ve, you know what I mean? Like, these are people that are going out to attract, they’re staying there for the weekend, whatever it is on their land, most likely, or someone else’s land. And like, alright, these are like your prime investors that are utilizing this. And so that’s really cool knowing that. But my thing is that obviously this was like, I would imagine this got a lot of steam during COVID and everything like that. Do you see people buying and financing land during, if we had a pullback or during maybe less certain times?

Quinn:
Yeah. So you identified a a portion, a subset of our clients, and those are the recreational guys. And in a downturn, those, those type of folks might, might pull back a little bit, like, Hey, now’s not the time to buy 70 acres in Oklahoma and ride four wheelers, right? Like, I’ll save that for next year. We’ll see what happens. But the demand for land, you’d be surprised. The demand for land, yes, covid really heightened it. But you’ve, you have so many people that just, the, the the connectivity the remote work opportunities now are allowing people to get out of cities and even suburbs that go another, you know, 20, 30 miles away. We have a great, a big property outside of Nashville. It’s an hour from Nashville, hour west of Nashville, and, and we’re selling these, this land like crazy.

Quinn:
And they’re, there are, a lot of ’em are in like Nashville people, or if you’re familiar with Franklin, they’re getting out of like the, they need some elbow room and they want five acres. They want 20 acres and 75 acres, you know, they want some elbow room, they want some, they want to, they wanna be in unrestricted areas so they can, they can hunt, they can hang out with their kids and they, they don’t have to see their neighbors. So there’s a, there’s a niche for it, you know. And then of course there’s the developers like pe folks that wanna buy a hundred acres and they wanna split it up into, you know, I don’t know, acre to two acre tracks and build, build barn condominiums, build tiny homes, build a build RV parks, you know, so that the <laugh> trailer storage, you know what I mean, the surface parking. I mean, there’s just, there’s so many, there’s so many exit opportunities. But no, I don’t see, I mean, honestly, sometimes even in a recession, it helps us a bit because people kind of get, they’re like, maybe now’s the time to buy some land. Let’s get outta Dodge. Let’s, you know, let’s, we have a lot of equity in our house. Let’s go buy something like affordable, you know, a little bit further out. I heard that they have good, you know, seller financing available and let’s go enjoy our lives. <Laugh>.

Charles:
Yeah, that’s very powerful. Definitely for Nashville. I can see that. I mean, it is just as I know investors there, they’re just saying it’s blowing up and it’s a so people trying to get a little bit more, like you said, elbow room, get out of like get outta the mix of it all and get a little break from it. And I guess this is a lot less expensive of a way of doing it, especially if they’re gonna build on it or if they’re putting their RV on it, whatever.

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Charles:
So with all your years of doing this in land, what are, I mean, what are some of the common mistakes maybe you see some land investors or land note investors make, maybe some of them you’ve made yourself, I imagine in the beginning.

Quinn:
Yeah. I’d say generally people are, they’re just hungry to do a deal. They, maybe they’re too hungry so they don’t have enough deal flow, so they have to take bad deals. And that’s scary. You know, people get stuck with inventory, they get their, you know, they’re just, they hold on to, you know, they’re just they don’t spend the, the requisite time needed to really uncover the red flags, you know? I mean, I don’t know how many times we’ve we’re like, Hey, this looks like a deal. It looks like a deal. We get to the final and we’re like, oh, this, you know, we assume the soils were gonna be good. That’s a big thing for us. If the soils are bad and you can’t, it doesn’t have a perk test. You can’t put a home on it, you can’t build a septic. ’cause We’re usually out there, there’s no, there’s no like city sewer, right?

Quinn:
So if it doesn’t perk, it doesn’t meet a percolation test through the city or a third party that’s, it’s junk. Like, you don’t want it unless it’s big enough and it can be sold as a recreational property. But I don’t know how many times, but people will forego that, right? It cost you a couple thousand dollars an extra couple weeks. People are like, oh, it’s probably good. I see houses all around. It’s probably okay. Well, they buy, they end up trying to sell it and they get stuck with it because it’s not, it’s not for whatever reason there’s rocks or, or I don’t know, clay soil that’s just, you know, just bad soil. So I’d say, yeah, to answer your question, people rush into deals that they shouldn’t be getting into. And so I’m always of the mindset, like even with commercial stuff, like you have to leverage other people’s expertise. You know, like I’ll never be as good as Charles at like at multifamily underwriting in, in central Florida, you know what I mean? Like, I, I’ll I’ll partner with you, you know, like you’re the man, you know, and, and, and likewise with other developers or, or, you know, self storage guys, like you gotta, and, and land. Like if you’re doing land and you want to be passive, like you have to partner with people that have been doing it, it a while. ’cause You will get, there’s some, there’s some pitfalls. Yeah,

Charles:
No, that’s a lot of great information there. The due diligence and, and I mean, any portion of real estate investing that you get involved with every time, if I speak to someone that’s seasoned, it’s the lack of due diligence is where you get caught. And I’ve done it myself. I mean, you know what I mean, stuff where you just kind of pass on it and now it’s like, okay, this is the reason why we have like a really strong reserve fund and this is why we bring in like a lot of professionals to do inspections. Not just the property inspector says it’s gonna be fine, it’s not, no, you’re gonna bring in that HVAC guy, you’re gonna bring in that roofer, you’re gonna walk the roofs, you’re gonna make sure that everything is what it seems. And if not, then we can work something out the seller or you know, really make sure that we you know, know that we have this repair coming up that we have to prepare for. That’s right. So over the years, with everything you’ve been involved with, what are some of the main factors contributing to your success?

Quinn:
I’d say it’s, it’s partnering with good people. ’cause I know what I, I know what I know and I know what I don’t know. So it, you know, filling the gaps in the, in the things that I don’t know, and, and leveraging other people’s expertise and time and capital, excuse me. I would say for me, momentum’s a big thing. Like when you get a, like I think people, when they have, when they get a win in a, in a, a property or an investment or in their, their day job, they get a win. They get a, a bonus or, you know, financial moment. You have to leverage that. You have to keep, keep pushing and keep, keep taking risk. And so pivoting from one, one success to the next and keep leveling up and keep, you know, do bigger, do more, scale up higher and use, use, use momentum. A lot of people, I think when they, they get a win, they’ll kind of sit back. They’re kind of like, like maybe subconscious. They’re kinda like, okay, I’m good. But now that’s to me, that’s the, the best time to kind of lean into, to either scaling that thing that works or or, you know, partnering with other good people.

Charles:
One last question before you share your contact information is over the years you tell us why you got into real estate and what you’re doing beforehand and kind of the route you took, which wasn’t the same as what other people, which I think is most entrepreneurs. There’s entrepr, most people, you know, that when in school they have people going all this way to getting jobs, getting higher education, and entrepreneurs go kind of a different route. Kind of how has your view or your kind of relationship with money changed over the years from maybe be before you started real estate investing to kind of through this journey to where you are now?

Quinn:
Yeah, it’s always, it’s, it really, it’s never really been about the money. It’s been about the lifestyle and the time. And so I was pursuing strategies that afforded me the, the, the time that I wanted desperately with my family. I mean, I missed the first couple years of my son’s life because of deployments. You know, we learned, we were having twins a couple years later. I’m like, never, never again, right? And so it was, it was where, you know, and if I was in consulting, you know, and you know, you might, you know, you make a great living, but you’re never home. And so I would prioritized you know, set, set the vision, set the goals, and then like back into like, what do, what strategies do I need to be doing to to achieve that. So I mean, I think that the, the, the cash flow, the, the, the financial stability will come. But I don’t if that’s your, I think that the target should be like, what, what kind of life are you trying to build? And, and that and the rest will kind of, and, and you’re doing all the right things. You’re partnering with the right people, you’re doing your, your quality due diligence, not losing money. And, and I think the rest will come naturally. Yeah,

Charles:
Really developing a life by design. That’s what you’ve done. So That’s awesome. So Quinn, how can our listeners learn more about you and and your businesses? Yeah,

Quinn:
I’d love to have a conversation with anyone that, any one of your listeners that have this, the land stuff has resonated with them. We are looking for accredit investors to invest in the legacy land fund. It’s legacy land fund.com, and they can schedule a call with me there.

Charles:
Yeah, and there’s a lot of great information on there. I was reading through that yesterday. I was preparing for the show. So tons of FAQ, tons of information all everything about their rates and returns, everything like that. So definitely hop on there. I’ll put all the notes or all the links into the notes section. And Quinn, thank you so much for coming on today and looking forward to connecting with you here in the near future.

Quinn:
Enjoyed it. Thank You.

Charles:
Thank you.

Charles:
Hi guys! It’s Charles from the Global Investors Podcast. I hope you enjoyed the show. If you’re interested in get involved with real estate, but you don’t know where to begin, set up a free 30 minute strategy call with me at schedulecharles.com. That’s schedulecharles.com. Thank you.

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About Quinn McArthur

Founder of Apex Capital and cofounder of Legacy Land Fund.  Husband, father, and real estate investor.  A West Point graduate and former Green Beret, Quinn combines the principles instilled through his experience to pave the way for his journey into full-time investing.

He is passionate about fusing the intersection of faith and business and stewarding the opportunity to advance the kingdom of God through the vessel of real estate. After working for one of the nation’s largest private commercial real estate developers, he knew he desired the autonomy to pursue real estate according to his convictions and do so alongside others who shared those same values.

This led first to the launch of Apex Capital and then to co-founding Legacy Land Fund (focused on passive income generation through land note investing) alongside his partner, Eric Scharaga.

He and his wife Amanda reside with their three children in Ponte Vedra Beach, FL.

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